There was a discussion on this week’s The Week in Westminster on Radio 4 regarding the West Lothian Question (i.e. the ability of non-English MPs to vote on matters regarding only England). Since this discussion is now being set in the context of huge constitutional change (that is, Scottish independence) then why not think big when it comes to creative solutions to the Question too. Assuming that Scotland remains a part of the United Kingdom, my question is: why is nobody discussing a possible federal structure for the United Kingdom? Scotland already has its own Parliament, we just grant it some more powers and upgrade the Welsh and Ulster Assemblies to full Parliaments and set up one for England as well. Westminster would remain the ‘Federal Parliament’, with a much reduced number of MPs (and possibly even peers) and a remit to cover only those issues relating to the UK as a whole. The most obvious of those are defence and foreign policy, but no doubt there are others.
Obviously it would be More Complicated Than That (© Ben Goldacre) but it’s a good starting position, surely? Is the fact that such a discussion isn’t happening at all purely inertia and conservatism (with a small ‘C’) or are there more serious objections to a federal UK that I’ve missed? That is very likely since I don’t have a political science background and haven’t thought through all the implications, but surely there are many models throughout the world that we could look to, the US being the most obvious, but also Germany, Russia and India spring to mind (and there are more on the Wikipedia page).
As I said above, I’m discussing this purely as a side-issue to that of Scottish independence, so issues specifically relating to whether such a state would satisfy the demands of Nationalists are irrelevant to this discussion. I’m interested purely in the thought-experiment of a federal UK. I’d love to hear thoughts on the subject.
Interesting idea.
The main drawback is that Westminster (UK parliament) won’t give England her own parliament. I don’t know whether in their eyes this would undermine the UK parliament, reduce this to a mere talking shop for defence, foreign affairs, and, err, what else is devolved again? Would reduce the mother of all parliaments to a gentlemen’s club.
A side issue: why do we need the UK as a union if Scotland is independent? Maybe that’s a topic for a whole other post!
I wouldn’t describe the American Congress as a talking shop or gentlemen’s club, I think if it’s done right, it wouldn’t be irrelevant at all, which is what I think you’re implying here.
And I don’t think Westminster is exactly against an English parliament – remember that Labour suggested an assembly for the north of England. That was voted down in a local referendum, if memory serves (ah yes, here’s the Wiki link). I don’t think that was the right way to go, but it shows some flexibility regarding the idea.
From Olaf on the LJ feed:
Um, I think you’re an order of magnitude out – ~10m compared to ~50m is closer to 20%, not 2%, which makes a Parliament for England as a whole much more viable in my opinion.
Re: your last paragraph (which I won’t quote in its entirety), I think shaking up the political system and cutting the number of safe seats may well re-engage people into politics. Whereas now many people feel disenfranchised through living in a seat where their vote means very little, this could shake things up and make people feel like they matter and that their representative is closer to them than their current MP.
Money, of course, could well be an issue.